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Dec. 19th, 2015 @ 02:18 pm The Moon is Rightfully America's
Or at least it was, by some of the oldest laws known to humanity--- Right of discovery and conquest. From the moment we first planted an American boot on Lunar soil.

Until our government essentially it away.

"Thief! Thief! The American wants to steal the Moon!" Oh shut up. First time ever that we land on territory that doesn't have natives to wring your hands over or trees to hug, and you're gonna squeal that we wanted to claim it? Typical. You won't let us claim an airless, lifeless rock out of sheer spite. So our milksop government folds like wet toast and makes some blithering proclamation about how the Moon "belongs to the nations of the world"--- despite it being American scientists, technology, and astronauts that made the trip possible. Thereby guaranteeing that nobody would EVER go back.

We should have told y'all to go pound sand. The usual crowd of French popcorn farts would have squealed about American Imperialism (over a BARREN AIRLESS ROCK no less), and Kennedy should have looked them in the eye and said "You want to stake a claim there? Come and get it." And given presidential orders for a permanent lunar military base. Wouldn't have to be much: just a little space hut occupied continually by one or two men.

Within the week every country on the planet that could screw a nut onto a bolt would be building a lunar colony rocket, just to spite us. We and every other country on the planet would have mining colonies on the Moon today, and we'd be halfway to settling Mars, if we had just treated the Lunar territory like every other territory on the planet: first come, first served.

Instead we gave it to the biggest collection of do-nothing weenies on Planet Earth--- the United Nations. And the Final Frontier died on the pagan altar of collectivism, at the hands of the Tragedy of the Commons.

We could still do it today. We SHOULD still do it today. The Space Race would take off the next day.

But of course not. That would be too CAPITALIST.
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From:deckardcanine
Date:December 19th, 2015 10:08 pm (UTC)
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I hadn't heard about this. I heard years ago that some Muslims claimed that Allah granted them the moon, but this was covered in a "News of the Weird"-type section and never addressed again.

Futurists have projected that the first lunar colony will have to be a multinational effort. It may make sense, then, not to claim the entire celestial body for one nation. But giving it up to the UN? Because they acted bratty about it? That's an Obama move.

...Further research tells me that the Moon Treaty was signed in 1979 and became effective in 1984. The signing's anniversary was yesterday; that explains why you bring it up. But the U.S. hasn't signed it, and I can't find any other info. So when exactly did we surrender the moon?
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From:rhjunior
Date:December 21st, 2015 01:00 am (UTC)
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The multinational effort bushwa is just that--- bushwa. America got there using tech from the 1960s. We could go there tomorrow... any American corporation could go there tomorrow... if they didn't have to fear their investment would be confiscated "for the commonwealth."
From:Jon Carey
Date:December 24th, 2015 09:16 am (UTC)

Also bushwa for more practical reasons.

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One of the reasons America was the first to get there and one of a tiny handful of nations to even seriously consider the possibility was that we actually had the massive surplus of resources to do so.

Fast forward from "one giant leap" 50 years and take a look at the competition. The Soviet terror-empire has collapsed, European nations are either going bankrupt or have nothing left over from playing Socialist House, China is too busy building ghost cities and selling us lead-tainted toys at the local Wal-Mart. Latin America is still Banana-Republic Central and pretty much ALL of Africa is in a semi-constant state of "poor, overpopulated and starving" after the last two nations run by European descendants fell to booga-booga tribal terrorists who couldn't run a lemonade stand. Finally, what few allies we have that worth calling such are in scarcely better condition - Canadadumb has recently gone fullblown socialist* and England is practically a Muslim outpost with its empire long gone.

Who 'xactly is left to take our place? Yeah, sure, you'd get the flurry of jerryrigged rockets you mention...but the national ones that didn't literally fall apart (or blow up) on the way in such haste would fall victim to their sponsors' pocketbooks doing the same.

As for the much-ballyhooed option of corporations doing what the government won't, folks, let's all remind ourselves what a corporation needs to do: MAKE A PROFIT. And the moon's profit potential is *bupkis*. There's no deposits of gold or uranium or bio-metal or Tiberium. Just a lot of dust that gets into the electronics keeping you alive and breathing that were flown up at ungodly expense in the first place. There is literally more profit potential from depopulating Afghanistan and strip-mining it of every mineral more valuable than chalk.

*to the point where my church and several others that I know are considering voting it as a 'hostile nation'; the leftist persecution is rapidly reaching levels previously only seen in 3rd-world dictatorships.

Edited at 2015-12-24 09:27 am (UTC)
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From:zarpaulus
Date:January 8th, 2016 04:45 am (UTC)
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We could launch a rocket with three people and enough supplies to keep them alive for a week, about once every four months, at the cost of half a billion dollars in today's money.

That is no where near enough to establish a colony.


In any case, the Outer Space Treaty was signed before we landed on the Moon, when people still thought it might be possible that the Soviets could get there first and put missiles on it.
From:auron3991
Date:December 30th, 2015 04:49 am (UTC)
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Wait, we have the moral high ground to play a Saturday morning cartoon villain?

Let me find that cape, I've always wanted to act like a giant ham and I've heard evil laughs are quite cathartic.
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From:zarpaulus
Date:January 6th, 2016 03:29 am (UTC)
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Incidentally, the Outer Space Treaty that forbids nations from claiming moons or planets was written and signed in 1967, four years after Kennedy's death and two years before we landed on Luna.