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From:zarpaulus
Date:March 22nd, 2012 03:44 pm (UTC)
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It's not like it's possible to estimate "losses" from "stealing" immaterial data anyways.
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From:phoex
Date:March 23rd, 2012 02:33 am (UTC)
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It's possible only if you assume that every person who has a copy of that file would have gone out and bought it (Ha!). Then it's as simple as X number of pirated copies x retail price = OMFG$$$
Of course the glaring flaw in this is assuming that everyone who downloaded it had the means and desire to buy the item, which is ridiculous even to a Hollywood exec.
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From:cardaxiro
Date:March 23rd, 2012 02:30 pm (UTC)
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Not to mention, between iTunes and Amazon alone it's infinitely easier to buy music, movies, and TV episodes digitally these days than it is to pirate it.

Besides, most of the stuff put out by the standard Hollywood establishment nowadays is total crap anyway. I got rid of cable three years ago and haven't missed it except for maybe one or two shows that I can stream over Netflix anyway.

Most of the money awarded in these kinds of court cases probably falls under punitive damages, which is really more of a financial slap on the wrist as an example to others than it is an actual estimate of the value of pirated material.
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From:cpt_tyrell
Date:March 23rd, 2012 05:42 pm (UTC)
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Actually, a good amount of piracy has been caused by services like iTunes and similar companies. Specifically with regards to DRM and other forms of copy protection.

A lot of times, DRM for movies, music, and games can be set off by things like driver updates, or hardware upgrades. Suddenly, the movie collection you bought from iTunes over the years no longer works on your computer, and there's pretty much nothing you can do about it except buy them all over again. How likely are you to continue using iTunes after that happens once or twice?

I encountered a problem like this with Command and Conquer 4, from EA. Bought the game, installed it, played it a bit; then I bought a new PC. Result? The game refused to work on the new PC because it recognized that it had been installed on a prior PC, and decided that it had been pirated. EA's recommended fix? Buy a new copy of the game.

So, basically, my choices have boiled down to, 1)buy the product legally, get to use it for a couple months, and then have to buy it AGAIN because Windows released an update, or 2) skip the headaches and just go to Pirate Bay and get a torrent of the product that won't crash when I get that new video card in a few months.
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From:cardaxiro
Date:March 23rd, 2012 07:37 pm (UTC)
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Your experience with iTunes must be fairly dated. Especially considering the recent iCloud implementation, where everything you've ever bought on your iTunes account is available for re-download any time you want, for free...

Like I said, iTunes has pretty much made piracy unnecessary for most people.
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From:tomyironmane
Date:March 24th, 2012 12:12 am (UTC)
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Yeah? how much does the subscription to THAT cost?you realize that if a Sicilian family did that it'd be called "protection money" right?

"Dat's some reeeeeal nice data you got there... be a shame if something were to happen to it during an update."
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From:cardaxiro
Date:March 24th, 2012 12:59 am (UTC)
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Both iTunes and Amazon provide cloud storage for music (and apps, movies, and most other digital content, I believe) you buy through their stores free of charge with no limits. Anything you upload beyond that and you'll be paying an annual subscription fee.
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From:tomyironmane
Date:March 24th, 2012 06:45 am (UTC)
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ALMOST sounds reasonable. Assuming you trust their records to remain accurate. My overarching point remains, however, and I still can't back up data on my own.
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From:cpt_tyrell
Date:March 24th, 2012 01:24 pm (UTC)
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I know I'd be a lot more inclined to believe that iCloud could be trusted to do what it says if I hadn't known so many people who had been burned by Apple in that past.

Consumer trust is far easier to lose than to regain. Just ask Firestone.
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From:gothelittle
Date:March 24th, 2012 01:00 pm (UTC)
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EA has also changed. Their Origin program is similar to Steam, and I've been pleased with it so far. Normally I wouldn't like having to add an Internet Activation, but they offer free download of your game (so if you lose the disk, it's no biggie) *and* cloud save, so if your hard disk goes, you haven't lost a thing of importance.

One of my Sims 3 expansion pack discs seems to have some sort of flaw in it. Usually, that would mean having to rebuy the game. Not anymore... I downloaded the install from Origin instead.

I recently got a brand new hard drive and had to reinstall *everything*, so I can verify that Steam and Origin both allow you to install on multiple machines as long as you log in to your account. They also have Offline Modes, so you can still play your game even if the server is down.
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From:cpt_tyrell
Date:March 24th, 2012 01:13 pm (UTC)
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As much as I love Steam, and its ability to easily move all my games to a new computer, their "Offline Mode" is...unreliable at best, and a flat-out lie at worst.
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From:rhjunior
Date:March 24th, 2012 01:08 am (UTC)
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They're not even doing that.
The way they estimate losses is by counting the number of blank tapes, CDs, and DVDs sold in a year and multiplying that by the retail price of their albums and movies.
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From:tomyironmane
Date:March 24th, 2012 06:42 am (UTC)
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*Looks at the currently blank CD and DVD stack on the computer desk used for data backup and storage, which is at least a foot and a half tall*

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!