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Jan. 28th, 2012 @ 04:35 am To all you bronies out there
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From:zarpaulus
Date:January 30th, 2012 08:02 pm (UTC)
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I agree entirely that there's too much shipping.

But consider that the first season gave practically no information on Equestrian history before Nightmare Moon and the majority of fanfics were at least started during the four month gap between seasons. They were bored and started making stuff up, and once they started they didn't particularly want to stop.
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From:rhjunior
Date:January 30th, 2012 08:38 pm (UTC)
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I don't mind shipping. I'm just sick of the GAY shipping.
From:eriscontrol
Date:January 30th, 2012 09:10 pm (UTC)
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Oooh, it's all about the gaaaaay shipping. I don't ship Dash and Pinkie because I'm pandering; I ship them because I'm projecting, m'dear.
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From:zarpaulus
Date:January 30th, 2012 10:15 pm (UTC)
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That's kind of what happens when you have a shortage of likeable characters of one gender, especially if there's a vocal fanbase consisting primarily of the opposite gender from most of the cast.

And anyways it looks like nearly all of the Big Mac ships will be sunk with the Valentine's episode.
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From:cpt_tyrell
Date:January 30th, 2012 11:44 pm (UTC)
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It's a story with, what? Two recurring male characters? Honestly, except for Spike and Mac, I can't think of any that have been more than just one-offs. So, people's choices are to create a male OC, or...

Not to say that there wouldn't be any les-fics if they introduced more regular male characters, but I bet there wouldn't be nearly as much.

Probably doesn't help that even in the real world, a lot of straight men (and women) agree that girl-on-girl is hot...
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From:zarpaulus
Date:January 31st, 2012 02:53 am (UTC)
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Lemme think, Spike, Big Macintosh, Mr. Cake (married), Snips and Snails (repulsive).

Yeah not many options.
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From:rhjunior
Date:January 31st, 2012 05:49 am (UTC)
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hey, I'm rooting for Snips and Snails. Not everybody gets to be one of the beautiful people, y'know. (Snails and Twist... the adorkable duo.)

But that said--- there are quite a few recurring background male characters.....who get shipped as gay. Usually with Macintosh.

Hasn't got a thing to do with insufficient male characters, never did.
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From:crazyredemu
Date:January 31st, 2012 01:10 pm (UTC)
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It's fan boys. The fan girls are mostly the ones that write the gay male stories. I hate fan girls of Transformer, Ill be half way into a fan fiction then suddenly everybot is gay.
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From:cpt_tyrell
Date:February 1st, 2012 04:18 am (UTC)
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Now that's interesting to me, because I've never met a woman who thought that two guys making out was actually sexy. I've asked too, often. I figured if a lot of guys liked to watch girl-girl stuff, then it stood to reason that the opposite was true. So far...not so much.
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From:crazyredemu
Date:February 1st, 2012 04:43 am (UTC)
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But where you asking nerd girls? Or just normal females?
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From:cpt_tyrell
Date:February 1st, 2012 04:46 am (UTC)
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Little from column A, little from column B. I ask women I hang out with, and I'm an avid dungeons and dragons player in the armed forces. Gives me a wide demographic.
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From:crazyredemu
Date:February 1st, 2012 05:00 am (UTC)
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Hmmm...most of the cases that I come across it's chicks making everyone gay. Who knows? Maybe they are lying about gender.
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From:cpt_tyrell
Date:February 1st, 2012 05:07 am (UTC)
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It wouldn't be the first time guys posed as women on the internet...

I'll admit that though my findings thus far have been very one-sided, my "sample size" is only in the dozens. I suggest polling people you know.
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From:crazyredemu
Date:February 1st, 2012 05:20 am (UTC)
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The people I know don't write fan fiction, and the people online I know write straight fan fiction cause I don't read gay stuff if I can help it, some people dont warn you tho.
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From:Nyxilis Mistwalker
Date:February 1st, 2012 01:24 pm (UTC)
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I'm going to actually back this guy. Enough voice chat, conventions attended, and plethora of known nerdy style girls, proven girls. There is a very large segment of women doing male/male pairings. Hetero women in point of fact. To which I attribute to the same design that was mentioned before. Sandwich.
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From:benschachar_77
Date:February 1st, 2012 06:58 am (UTC)
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According to Cracked, gay(male) porn sells like hotcakes to middle aged women and there is a reason that there is a trope called Yaoi Fangirl- it happens more often than you'd think.
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From:rhjunior
Date:February 1st, 2012 11:26 pm (UTC)
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Yaoi fangirls. They exist.

You know, guys who write lesbian fanfics seem oblivious to the fact that women would find girl-on-girl action as gross as men find guy-on-guy action.
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From:benschachar_77
Date:January 31st, 2012 01:52 am (UTC)
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Its shippers, they're pretty much obsessed with homosexuality. To say nothing of their utter ignorance of statistics: one fanfic (and bear in mind this is actually pretty damn reasonable considering the other "statistics" I see in shipfic) said that 20% are het, 60% are bi and the remainder are gay. This is wildly inaccurate to real life where your looking at 5% of the population according to the U.S. census bureau who aren't solely heterosexuals. The average shipper has the statistic completely inverted.

To say nothing of their hypocrisy. They say they ship females because there aren't that many males with defined characteristics but they still ship Lyra/Bonbon and Scratch/Octavia even though none of those characters but one says so much as a single word, heck the latter never even appear in the same scene.

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From:rhjunior
Date:January 31st, 2012 02:15 am (UTC)
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Members of the furry fandom have referred to the phenomenon as "jailhouse gay." As in they're in a position where they're so horny and desperate-- and unlikely to ever, EVER touch the flesh of another human being-- that they're willing to contemplate any kind of sexual contact. With anyone. Ever.

Throw such a person into the middle of a culture* that is utterly determined to eradicate any and all taboos, and that openly lavishes undeserved praise on even the most guttural drek so long as it promotes their worldview.... and you get people who write and draw every possible combination of bumping uglies.

*I use the term culture very loosely here. The thing we call "culture" in America in truth consists of a bare handful of coastal elitists who have maintained a near monopoly on our biggest cultural outlets (movies, television, radio and the press) and who have engaged in a 60 year long session of projection (in the psychiatric sense) onto the rest of the Western World. The vast majority of sane, healthy and moral people in society still regard the lifestyles they are advocating as immoral, unhealthy, abnormal, and/or disgusting. They have just largely been bullied into silence by the loud, shrill minority, who now spend their days in the middle of the street with their hands down their pants, screaming at the top of their lungs about how wonderful they are for doing it, and daring anyone to chase them out of the road.

http://www.zombietime.com/up_your_alley_2008/
http://www.zombietime.com/folsom_sf_2007_part_1/
http://www.zombietime.com/deconstructing_slutwalk/
http://zombietime.com/prop_8_gay_marriage_ruling/

Warning: IN case you didn't guess it, NSFW images. I mean NASTY.
After all, this is the sexual liberation front on full display, ready to show the world the BEST and BRIGHTEST it has to offer....