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From:poetsong
Date:September 24th, 2007 01:26 am (UTC)

Distroying Islam without Distroying Muslims

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I think what we have to remember about Islam is that unlike Christianity we are looking at a religion that has been spreading mostly by procreation. Most people who are Muslims are not Muslims because they choose to be, they are Muslims because are forced to be. You take away a nations ability to force Islam and Islam will weaken and fall apart on its own.

The United States has a strong Christianity not because Christianity was forced but because it was not. But there is not similar Islamic example. Islam is reliant on a government to enforce and indoctrinate.

There is no need for a Dresden, Iwo Jima or Hiroshima in this case. You need only take away those who force the population into this slavery. Islamic terrorist are against Democracy because they believe that free people would not choose them. I agree.

Also, right now our strategy of not killing civilians when we can help it is devastating the Islamic terrorists. Sunni Muslims are opposing Al Qaeda in Iraq! And it is because Al Qaeda feels they have the right to kill whoever get in their way and Iraqis are tired of it. Iraqis are not choosing the terrorists because don't kill them when they get in the way.
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From:rhjunior
Date:September 24th, 2007 01:31 am (UTC)

Re: Distroying Islam without Distroying Muslims

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It is spread by procreation, yes--- but foremost, by the sword.

From:quantum_wizard
Date:September 24th, 2007 12:40 pm (UTC)

Re: Distroying Islam without Distroying Muslims

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No it doesn't. It did in the days of yore but not anymore.
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From:rhjunior
Date:September 24th, 2007 07:55 pm (UTC)

Re: Distroying Islam without Distroying Muslims

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Read a newspaper sometime.
From:quantum_wizard
Date:September 24th, 2007 11:08 pm (UTC)

Re: Distroying Islam without Distroying Muslims

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Can you show any recent example of Islam actually spreading by sword? I'm sure you can find a lot of examples of Muslims engaging in violence, but where has that actually helped Islam spread?
From:mrinitialman
Date:September 25th, 2007 05:34 am (UTC)

Re: Distroying Islam without Distroying Muslims

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Taliban.
From:quantum_wizard
Date:September 25th, 2007 10:09 am (UTC)

Re: Distroying Islam without Distroying Muslims

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What? Afghanistan has been predominantly Muslim for a millennium, much before the Taliban even existed.
From:mrinitialman
Date:September 25th, 2007 10:18 am (UTC)

Re: Distroying Islam without Distroying Muslims

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Ah, but the Taliban certainly introduced THEIR version of Islam by the sword.
From:quantum_wizard
Date:September 25th, 2007 11:27 am (UTC)

Re: Distroying Islam without Distroying Muslims

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That may be true, but what I was referring to was how Islam in general spreads. As noted by poetsong, presently it happens primarily by procreation rather than by conversion (voluntary or involuntary). In historical times it did spread through military conquest and getting converts that way. But that isn't the case anymore.